Why I don’t track either my income or expenses on the road to FIRE – and the 7 ½ lazy rules I (sorta) follow instead
I’m a few posts in and I haven’t actually talked about money yet. Given that I was inspired to start this blog due to the FIRE and personal finance communities that feels like something of an omission. So I feel like I’ve got to stand tall and get on with it or otherwise I’m going to get booted out of the community (is there a special ceremony like when Mr Banks gets fired in Mary Poppins? Not sure that they cleared that one with HR),
Not sure that a spoonful of sugar will have helped THAT medicine go down. Ammirite!?!?!? Don’t leave me hanging good buddy.
Why I SHOULD track my finances
Anyhoo. The main reason that I haven’t done a finance post is because I feel a bit of a fraud. Firstly I don’t actually track my finances so I can’t putout monthly summaries like Weenie, or Dr Fire, or JMoney and the rest. It’s not that I have a problem sharing it, I just don’t do it. I mean I suppose I could go to my various statement and work out what the headlines numbers are but I never have – at least not in a systematic way. Does that mean I’m even allowed to be part of the community? Knowing what’s coming in and going out seems to be like a basic rule for someone who is meant to be good with their finance. And the community’s not just tracking it for chips and giggles there are excellent reasons why we all should.
If you don’t know what your income and outgoings are then how do you know that you’re living within your means? Without those numbers it’s too easy to fail the Mr Micawber test right?
Even if you have a good handle on your income (and most of us do ‘cos that’s just the salary that plops into our bank account every month) then you really need to know what’s going out. If you don’t then how can you work out where you are wasting money. Or where you can get better deals.
And you need toknow all of that so that you can work out how much you can save. That’s the central tenet of FIRE right? Raise income, lowerexpenses and build your stash so that you can reach FI. Unless youare saving then it going to be rather tricky to build a FU fund, or aretirement fund, or a FIRE fund.
I can see all of that but I still don’t track my money.
Why I DON’T track my finances
Now all of that raises the natural question of why. Given that you know that it full of FIRE-y goodness why don’t you track you finances Caveman? (and also why are you referring to yourself in the third person? You know that’s weird right? Yes Caveman does know that, but is it any weirder than talking to yourself on your own blog? No, fair point.)
So I would love to tell you that there is a profound reason behind why I do it, but there isn’t. I don’t do it for the reason that most people in the don’t do it: I find it a bit boring and I am more than a bit lazy.
There. I said it. Pretty poor show huh? It’s like eating your 5-a-day, or walking 10,000 steps, or calling your mum. I know that it’s the right thing to do but somehow I never get round to it. [Hi mum! I’ll call you Sunday. Promise! Love you xx]
But Caveman, you interject, you’re putting yourself out there as a member of the FIRE community. Is this really it? You kinda lamely trailing off to say that you can’t be bothered to track your finances isn’t really that inspiring.
So you are completely right to pull me up on that. And I am being a little disingenuous because while all of the above it true, it’s not all I do. What I do instead is follow my rules. They give me 91% [made up number] of the benefits of tracking my finances while taking away 93% of the pain. [another made up number- but if I say those numbers with confidence you’re gonna believe me right?]
The 7 ½ rules I follow to get to FI
So let get to it. If I don’t do budgets, what are my rules?
- Set up direct debits or standing orders. I do this for everything that I can. Council tax, water, gas, broadband, electricity, Oyster card, mobile phone, insurances, Sky, subscriptions, TV licence, road tax, charity donations, school meals, music/swimming/dance/whatever lessons, credit cards (paid off in full every month obvs). Everything
- 5 Importantly make sure that these DDs/standing orders include mortgage overpayments and ISAs
- Get the full match on my pension from my employer (if I put in 5% they put in 10% – I don’t know how that compares to others but I’ll take it)
- Compare renewal prices. When renewal times come along go to MoneySupermarket or Compare the Market or similar price comparison websites (no affiliation) and check out alternative prices. Having said that I can’t remember the last time I changed suppliers. Most of the time I call up my existing provider, tell them what prices I’ve found, and where, and they tend to match it without any fuss.
- Give ourselves “pocket money” (again by standing order). This goes into a separate current account and I can do whatever I want with it. Going large on a birthday or Christmas present? Fancy a latte, or a takeaway? Want to get a DVD? Can’t live without that wallet on Amazon? Beers with mates? No problem? It comes out of this account. The only rule is that when it’s gone it’s gone (at least until next month).
- Run stuff into the ground before replacing it. My car is over a decade old. I’ve just replaced my phone handset after four years (my contact is sim-only). And, man alive, do I hate shopping for clothes…
- Except for a house never borrow money to buy stuff, save instead
- Holiday/one offs from my bonus. We treat my bonus as a genuine bonus (and I know how lucky I am to get one) so when it comes in we top up the emergency fund if needed, put a third of it against the mortgage, then holidays and (planned) work around the house and garden all fit into what’s left.
Um. That’s it. To be honest they are more rules of thumb than hard rules but they are what I do.
So why does having rules instead of tracking finances work for me?
The single most important motivating factor behind all of this is my laziness. I can’t tell you how important it is to being successful (well, actually, I can. But that’s a post for another time). But this automates almost everything that I can automate so I don’t have to think about it. Or more precisely we think once about what we want in life then I forget about it (except at renewal time). Awe-Some.
Secondly the amount that goes out of the current account doesn’t change every month. I know that I will have almost everything that I and my family will need every month and I know that the monthly balance on my current account it stable so I can afford it. I just don’t need to think about it very much.
Thirdly I can do what I like with my pocket money account. We can indulge whims if we want without guilt (the use of the term “pocket money” is deliberate to give ourselves licence to be frivolous if we want). Actually at the moment my pocket money account is running a significant surplus while my wife is much more likely to use hers every month. But that’s fine, we don’t have to account for our pocket money to each other. In fact unless we happen to mention it to each other we won’t even know.
Finally, it’s kinda working. It may not be as efficient as it could be but it’s getting me there and it also stops me from getting obsessed by it at the expense of getting obsessed by becoming happier – which of course is the real goal.
I’m going to stop there as this post has gone on a bit, but I realise that I should probably explain at some point why I think this is “kinda working” and how this links to my goals (as far as I have them). I’ll try to make that the next post…unless I do the one on laziness…or I get out the rant on morning routines that I’ve got building…or I do something else entirely…
Thoughts?
Am I mad not to track my income and expenses? Do my rules seem at all sensible? Is there anything that that confuses you or you want to know more about?
I’m sure I must have forgotten something so please test me!
Love your post! I am very much the same. I am too disorganized to ever track my expenses until the very last…euro. I’ve made some attempts, but fail each time.
My main rules are this:
– Company withholds 30% of my net salary towards purchase of ESPP shares. I never see this amount. I can’t spend it.
– A certain amount is earmarked ‘do whatever you want to do with it’. I invest part of it, but that’s a bonus investment.
– The rest is just money for food, bills, clothes, Netflix, whatever. I don’t track it. Maybe I will some day. Probably not.
Hi Marc,
Glad you enjoyed the post. Yes for me the effort to reward from tracking expenses just doesn’t work out.
Interesting that you have so much of your savings tied up in your company, but it’s definitely a way of making sure that you automate your savings. Personally I think that the most important thing is to have some rules. What the right rules are will vary by individual.
Best of luck with it!
Caveman
Hi Caveman
Thanks for explaining, not that you needed to! Not all FIRE bloggers share their numbers/track their income/savings (@FireThe9To5 for example) or do things the same – don’t even get started on how people calculate their ‘net worth’ or ‘savings rate’ haha!
There are a few reasons why I do my updates: a) some people like to read them and compare with their own numbers; b) putting my numbers out there help motivate me and keep me on track with my goals; and c) I don’t mind updating them. The reading stats for my monthly summaries are way ahead of any other posts I do and it means I am guaranteed to post at least once a month if I run out of things to write about! 🙂 I’ve been blogging for nearly 5 years now so that might become a reality!
I don’t have a budget as such and don’t track my expenses – that’s cos like you, I too stick by some rules. All of yours in fact, apart from number 7 (I don’t get one every year).
I assume you do have spreadsheets which track your journey to FIRE at a high level, otherwise how would you know when you get there?
Hi Weenie,
Isn’t it interesting about the summaries being the most popular posts? I wonder if it’s in part because people want to track the journey and are willing you onto the finishing line!
I do wonder it more people in the FIRE community mostly stick to rules and then just do monthly summaries to keep track more than anything else.
Great question about spreadsheets. I don’t have a tracking spreadsheet as it happens, What I do on occasion (once a year or so) is to look at what my ISA’s are worth. I’m going to go into it a bit in a post in a week or two but I again just have a rule of thumb as to what that number needs to be. I’m so far off at the moment that there’s no point my thinking about when I’m going to be close for at least 6 years so I’m just not worrying about it.. I’m not shooting for a date though as I my kids are still young enough that I don’t know what their needs are going to be. If e.g. we need to pay for private school everything will need to be rethought.
That’s why my real focus is on happiness and contentment NOW. I don’t want to put it all on some future nirvana that I may never achieve.
Caveman
PS Please don’t stop blogging! I’m sure you’ll find lots of other things to write about! Here’s to 5 more years!
Ah, that makes sense – the unknown potential costs of your children’s education (school and perhaps university later) does mean that it’s harder to set any sort of number, or date for that matter so not worth the bother to try.
But yes, the focus has got to be enjoying the journey and living life now and not just for the future. I have a good life now, I just look forward to a better one!
Haha, I don’t have plans to stop blogging, although I think the next 5 years will be a lot tougher.
Firstly, thanks for the shout out!
There’s certainly nothing wrong with not tracking your expenses as meticulously as others might do. I personally just happen to get a strange, perverse enjoyment out of it!
I don’t really set a budget (other than, spend less than I earn). Instead, I like to track my spending so I know where it’s all going and, if necessary, I can readjust in the future. This means that some months I might spend £300 on eating out, or train journeys to visit friends, and other months I might spend £200 on concert tickets, etc. As long as, overall, I’m keeping my spending in check, then I’m not too worried.
Hi Dr FIRE. A pleasure! I can see the appeal in having my expenses tracked, it’s the process of actually tracking them that I can’t get the enthusiasm for!
Spending less than you earn is the absolute bedrock of managing money. I sometimes think that if anyone can get this be sorted then most of the rest will fall into place. To generalise from what you say, if anyone can keep their spending in check then I don’t think they need to be worried.
Hi Caveman – I love the simplicity of your approach on a day to day basis it sounds perfect.
On the longer term and bigger picture, I’m intrigued to see if there are more numbers involved.
There are more numbers involved in the longer term. But still no spreadsheets and still sort of around rules of thumb. My next post is going to be on that – and to be honest it’s turning into a bit of a beast as it forces me to clarify my thinking to be able to write it down. I’m loving that process as it is so valuable for me.
I track every cent I earn and spend… So I guess I’m the opposite of you then. I’m a bit of a data nerd, so that fuels the need to track everything and create awesome graphs on that data.
I have nothing but respect for people like you who track things properly! As I say I can see the benefit, its just that the cost-benefit doesn’t pay off for me. I do think that will change as I get closer to my target levels and I will need to start to think about whether I want to quit my job.